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sebastian
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:05 pm Reply with quote
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hi everyone i was thinking about a sentence that i had read it was about hemichromis elongatus that this is the strongest cichlid on our planet and that the second strongest is caquetaia umbriferrum is it true?????, i was also thinking about p.dovii which cichlid in yuor opinion is the strongest or agressivest and which should be the king of cichlids beating all other fishes with no probllem killing them and eating Twisted Evil Very Happy

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Zitrone
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:58 pm Reply with quote
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umbriferrum the king of the tank?












Oscar wins!!!! Very Happy

Amphilophus Trimaculatus is the king of frehwater!!



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sebastian
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:03 am Reply with quote
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i go with you zitrone in case of umbii i think that maybe he is powerfull and strong but even oscar 2 times smaller than umbii beated him like on the photos nice shot of tromacs with blood of them it looks very violent but i think that there are cichlids more agressive than trimac but i still like trimacs

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Cichlidae
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:03 am Reply with quote
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If your going by size alone, which i do when judging the "king" the sandings would be

Boulengerochromis microlepis at 36"
Cichla temensis at 30"
Parachromis dovii at 24"
Caquetaia umbrifera at 24"

But for strenght and agression ill go with Amphilophus festae Smile

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sebastian
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:38 am Reply with quote
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in the case of size i heard that cichla temensis grow to 40,8 inch and that the fishermans had cought parachromis dovii at alrge 42,8 inch so they are biger than the first cichlid on your list i agree that feastea is strong and agressive but no so as other big cichlids however i like red terrors very much vaery nice cichlids

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Cichlidae
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:29 am Reply with quote
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Theres no doubt in my mind that these fish can get bigger, its how often it happens that is more important. Sorta like african cichlid, most mbuna get 4-6", but ive seen some closer to 10", basically it doesnt mean it cant happen, just not commonly

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sebastian
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:08 pm Reply with quote
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you're right but i think that the king should be dovii beacause 1m dovii could destroy any other fish of fresh water

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sebastian
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:35 pm Reply with quote
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besides i had heard that dovii has tje strongest jaw from every cichlids
so it is KING

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Ozzy
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:25 pm Reply with quote
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:15 pm Reply with quote
Dovii would win, with Umbie being #2. Male Festae might make #3. Oscar as mentioned above isn't even in the top 100. Trimaculatus isn't close either. Remember that many of the top fish like Festae and Dovii don't grow that fast at first and are rather timid. A Midas and Festae put in the tank at the same time would surely result in the Midas being the winner, but if you kept them seperated until the Male festae got some size, he would easily be able to take out the Midas. As for umbie, check out this site, and click on the picture of the Umbie - the biggest one that I have seen in captivity:
http://www.cichlidscene.com/
Ozzy
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:47 pm Reply with quote
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Yes oscars just have a nice "personality" other than that, it would have to be one mean oscar to beat up a Festae.




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sebastian
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:21 am Reply with quote
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i would say that oscars and trimacs maybe aren't the kings but they are agressive if we wanted to find the king we should organise fights with cichlids and all should be the same size and the winner would be king in my tank the king is oscar who had beaten jags pair biger than oscar and midas the same size as the oscar and pair of fhs

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Ozzy
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:08 pm Reply with quote
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Getting fish just so they fight is cruel.


We wouldnt be able to compare fish effectively because every fish is different. There are Red Devils that would eat me if it was possible, others that are so afraid a guppy would put them to shame Laughing
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Zitrone
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:11 pm Reply with quote
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Ozzy wrote:
Getting fish just so they fight is cruel.


We wouldnt be able to compare fish effectively because every fish is different. There are Red Devils that would eat me if it was possible, others that are so afraid a guppy would put them to shame Laughing


i agree!
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Cichlidfever
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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I agree, although, most of us like the big and aggresive cichlids, because of beauty and their aggressiveness. Anybody with any experience with the aggressive cichlids have and idea of what fish can dominate another fish because of housing them together at some point. Although, we all no that there are exceptions to what one might experience with each species, because of tank size, personalities, etc...
Again, I have to agree, to buy fish just for fighting purposes is cruel.
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