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Mdang
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:50 am Reply with quote
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When do midas start to breed? I bought a pair of midas at my lfs male 4" & female 3.5". I've had them for 6 months now & they have grown to male 6" & female 4.5". So I guess they are about 10mths old Question Question They have tried to breed 3 times but unsuccessful Sad Sad The 1st time, she laid about 50 eggs but only a few hatched so she ate them all. The 2nd time she laid about 150 eggs but none of then hatched. The 3rd time she laid about 30 eggs & none of them hatched. I have read that they grow to their maximum size in 12mths ( about 12"). So does that mean my midas are extremely slow growing Mad Mad And how do I get them to breed successfully. How do I post a pic in here Question
The female has lost most of the oranges, only the lips & around the eyes have some orange left. She has also grown a small hump on her head.
The male's colour is pretty much the same but he has grown a big hump & he is very thick (fat).

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sebastian
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:12 am Reply with quote
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hi mark don't worry i had the same or similar situation with fhs they layed the eggs maybe 10 times and nothing they eated the eggs or destryed them but when the male was something about 17 cm and feamele 13 cm situation had changed now they breed every time sucessfull you must just wait with patience as they will get breeding experience .to post the pics on forum you must log for example on www.photobucket.com and add the pics on this site later when you added the pics when you write the post press the button img and paste the url adress of your picture from photobucket and it is all. i think that when you feed good your fishes they should grow fast 12 inch n 12 months it is very fast midas grow fast but for example oscars grow faster

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ray
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:06 am Reply with quote
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Hi Mdang,

Do you have other fish in the same tank? You can mail me your midas shots and I will add them to the midas gallery!

mail@midas-cichlid.com

http://www.midas-cichlid.com/midas_pictures.html

and you can use them here in this forum!

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Cichlidae
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:17 am Reply with quote
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I agree with sebastian, patience is key, BUT also what size of tank is it? tank mates? what temp? these are all reasons why it might not be happening already but the fish do still sound a little on the smaller size to be having huge successful broods

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Pei
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:00 pm Reply with quote
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Midas can start breeding at 4-5" if given the right conditions and that they already showed interest to each other. You will need to trial and error to get them to breed. Not all fish the same, after all. Smile
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Ozzy
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:41 pm Reply with quote
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Seems like the Advice Team is working out great Cool Very Happy
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Mdang
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:13 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the feedback Very Happy

The midas are trying to breed again Very Happy I have noticed that after the female laid her eggs she is very aggressive & does not allow the male come close too the eggs. Maybe that is why they are not hatching cuz he is not close enough to fertilise them. Crying or Very sad
This pic is about 3 old & the male is 5inc & female 4inch
[img] http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/Markdang/Fish%20tank/Photo0395.jpg
They look alot different now. Will get a better pic later.
I have a 5ft x 1.5ft x 1.5ft tank.
2 midas - male
2 synspilum - male 5.5inch female 4inch
2 polleni - male 7inch female 4inch
2 green terror - male 4inch female 3inch
6 silver dollars
1 albino black shark 5inch
I know its a crowded but they seems pretty happy at the moment & there is no fighting. Plus the other fish distracts the male midas from bashing the female midas after an unsucceful attempt at breeding. When the midas get a bit bigger I will have to removed the other fish Sad
I also have a 3ft x 1.5ft x 1.5ft tank
a pair of ( I think they are red devils but could be flower horn) male 9inch & female 6.5inch. Again they have tried to breed many times. The female laid hundreds of eggs but no success Sad The 2 of them get along very well, even after an unsuccess attempt at breeding. Hower after about 6 tries the male becomes very aggressive & almost killed the female. Luck I manage to separate them in time. But now the male wont tolerate the female:? Maybe they are hybrid & the male is a dud Mad I will give them a few more go, if no babies I will give them away & I will try to breed the polleni Rolling Eyes
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Ozzy
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:06 pm Reply with quote
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sebastian
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:45 pm Reply with quote
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very nice midas and plate Wink

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Zitrone
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:09 pm Reply with quote
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hi Mdang,

Separate the pair and the female comes down with their aggression, because she has been stressed by the other enemies in the tank - which wants her eggs.

Give them a chance, they are new in the breeding business!
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Mdang
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:40 am Reply with quote
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Hi all,

This the pair of fish that I think are red devils Confused Can you please identify Razz male 9inch

Female 7inch

What do you guys think they are Question The female lay eggs every month but no babies Mad



Edited by Ozzy - I fixed your picture links

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ray
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:02 am Reply with quote
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Hi Mdang,

you picturelink doesn´t work, so you can send me your pictures to
mail@midas-cichlid.com

I add them to this thread!

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Mdang
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:50 am Reply with quote
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Here is the link again hope it works.
[img] http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/Markdang/Photo0333.jpg
Male about 9inch.
[/img] http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/Markdang/Photo0334.jpg
Female about 7 inch. Can someone tell what type of fish they are

Thanks Razz .

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Guest
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:57 am Reply with quote
Mdang,
Your fish appear to be Barred Midas. If someone else thinks differently, let us know. Hope this helps.


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Zitrone
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:29 pm Reply with quote
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hi bboy,

but look at the fins, they looks diffrent!

Barred Midas


Fish - Midas? It has a very big tail

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